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	<title>Comments on: Case study: Yes, they really do manage to believe this stuff</title>
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	<description>Alright you sheep! Get in a f*cking line!</description>
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		<title>By: soulhuntre</title>
		<link>http://www.herdwatching.com/2007/07/25/case-study-yes-they-really-do-manage-to-believe-this-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator>soulhuntre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the good side is that thanks to the internet I get to &quot;meet&quot; so many interesting people :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the good side is that thanks to the internet I get to &#8220;meet&#8221; so many interesting people :)</p>
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		<title>By: RenegadeEvolution</title>
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		<dc:creator>RenegadeEvolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, yes, I went a few rounds about feminism with this person over at Plain(s)Feminist&#039;s place....reality is not a place she visits much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, yes, I went a few rounds about feminism with this person over at Plain(s)Feminist&#8217;s place&#8230;.reality is not a place she visits much.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice post, soulhuntre.  You&#039;re spot on about a number of the obvious internal contradictions.  Well, I&#039;d call them hypocrisies, but I&#039;m not as civil as you.

But you missed my favorite Heart quote from that thread.  The bit about how she can&#039;t be like the religious right because the religious right tried to put her out of business and she sued them.  With nary a mention of how she, herself, was hardcore religious right up until that very moment.

&quot;Must. Be. Part. Of. A. Very. Special. Oppressed.  Minority,&quot;  comes to mind.

But I continue to grow more disenchanted with the radfem community.  Someone, somewhere made a comment comparing radfem to Leninist-Marxists and the theory vs. the reality of what had been done in history.  Philosophy = interesting w/ valid points, community = crazy w/ dangerous tendencies towards humanity plus a thirst for personal power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice post, soulhuntre.  You&#8217;re spot on about a number of the obvious internal contradictions.  Well, I&#8217;d call them hypocrisies, but I&#8217;m not as civil as you.</p>
<p>But you missed my favorite Heart quote from that thread.  The bit about how she can&#8217;t be like the religious right because the religious right tried to put her out of business and she sued them.  With nary a mention of how she, herself, was hardcore religious right up until that very moment.</p>
<p>&#8220;Must. Be. Part. Of. A. Very. Special. Oppressed.  Minority,&#8221;  comes to mind.</p>
<p>But I continue to grow more disenchanted with the radfem community.  Someone, somewhere made a comment comparing radfem to Leninist-Marxists and the theory vs. the reality of what had been done in history.  Philosophy = interesting w/ valid points, community = crazy w/ dangerous tendencies towards humanity plus a thirst for personal power.</p>
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		<title>By: soulhuntre</title>
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		<dc:creator>soulhuntre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah the joy of crazy :)

It&#039;s too bad they probably see the mental health community as tools of the patriarchy. They could probably use the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the joy of crazy :)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad they probably see the mental health community as tools of the patriarchy. They could probably use the help.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
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		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah.  Well, Rain might actually be even MORE special than she appears here.  Briefly: this is Rain(singer); there was, in numerous incarnations, a RainSONG, also Renee (as I knew her), Lynn, and some other things; who sounded well, quite a very lot like this one.  Was one day outed as trans herself, which, she never really quite copped to in so many words.  she was Heart&#039;s public enemy number one for a little while a couple of months ago.  she was also completely batshit insane and -very- manipulative; she&#039;d almost wangled herself an invitation to come stay with another woman online (she sucked me in by claiming she was about to be kicked out into the street, homeless, and probably wouldn&#039;t survive, but just wanted to defend the Twoo Radical Feminism).  next thing i know she&#039;s all over my friends list and talking, well, like this, on trans friends&#039; blogs as well, without revealing anything about herself.  another friend aptly called her a &quot;vampire.&quot;  Finally, as much to cut her loose as to say, look, I don&#039;t want to associate with this, I went to Heart&#039;s blog where they were bemoaning the Return of Rainsong/Onedown/Lynn , calling her an imposter and wondering about suing her.  I said, look, I&#039;m not down with this, the weird stalking thing she had with Heart, any of the crazy, really, washing my hands.

so, disappears as far as i&#039;m concerned.

so, now there&#039;s this Rain person, and Heart was all, well, at first my heart sank when I saw the login; but then I thought, well, she tried to steal MY identity (she was calling herself womanspace for a while), maybe she stole YOURS?  because you so totally make sense!

and Rain agrees, serenely: oh yes, well, dunno about that other Rainsong character but she sounds awfully unpleasant, me, I&#039;ve had this name since I was a little girl, and I ran boards (in the southern hemisphere) was back in the early 90&#039;s...

of course, Renee/etc. also announced herself as having run boards way back in the early 90&#039;s as part of her cred establishment, i remember, early in our communications...

so, anyway. apparently this is the True transphobic radical feminist Rain, not the False one.  you see.  hey, if Heart says so.  discerning of character that she always has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  Well, Rain might actually be even MORE special than she appears here.  Briefly: this is Rain(singer); there was, in numerous incarnations, a RainSONG, also Renee (as I knew her), Lynn, and some other things; who sounded well, quite a very lot like this one.  Was one day outed as trans herself, which, she never really quite copped to in so many words.  she was Heart&#8217;s public enemy number one for a little while a couple of months ago.  she was also completely batshit insane and -very- manipulative; she&#8217;d almost wangled herself an invitation to come stay with another woman online (she sucked me in by claiming she was about to be kicked out into the street, homeless, and probably wouldn&#8217;t survive, but just wanted to defend the Twoo Radical Feminism).  next thing i know she&#8217;s all over my friends list and talking, well, like this, on trans friends&#8217; blogs as well, without revealing anything about herself.  another friend aptly called her a &#8220;vampire.&#8221;  Finally, as much to cut her loose as to say, look, I don&#8217;t want to associate with this, I went to Heart&#8217;s blog where they were bemoaning the Return of Rainsong/Onedown/Lynn , calling her an imposter and wondering about suing her.  I said, look, I&#8217;m not down with this, the weird stalking thing she had with Heart, any of the crazy, really, washing my hands.</p>
<p>so, disappears as far as i&#8217;m concerned.</p>
<p>so, now there&#8217;s this Rain person, and Heart was all, well, at first my heart sank when I saw the login; but then I thought, well, she tried to steal MY identity (she was calling herself womanspace for a while), maybe she stole YOURS?  because you so totally make sense!</p>
<p>and Rain agrees, serenely: oh yes, well, dunno about that other Rainsong character but she sounds awfully unpleasant, me, I&#8217;ve had this name since I was a little girl, and I ran boards (in the southern hemisphere) was back in the early 90&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
<p>of course, Renee/etc. also announced herself as having run boards way back in the early 90&#8217;s as part of her cred establishment, i remember, early in our communications&#8230;</p>
<p>so, anyway. apparently this is the True transphobic radical feminist Rain, not the False one.  you see.  hey, if Heart says so.  discerning of character that she always has been.</p>
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